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    <font size="+1"><tt>Larry, <br>
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        I'm not sure what you mean by "the wedge of vision created by
        motor vehicles"<br>
        <br>
        With my V-Rex I am at the driver's eye level when I look at
        him/her. With the Trike, I am slightly below. <br>
        <br>
        Eric <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">O<font size="+1"><tt>n 5/1/2016 10:24
          PM, Larry Black wrote:</tt><tt><br>
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      <div><font size="+1"><tt>Not so much speed and power, the
            awkwardness comes from the eyeball/head height.</tt></font></div>
      <div><font size="+1"><tt>Your deprived friends on upright bikes
            and many 'bents look down on you, you look up to them.</tt></font></div>
      <div><font size="+1"><tt>Our big challenge on courses other than
            pathways is the wedge of vision created by motor vehicles as
            opposed to the hemisphere of vision  afforded when your head
            is above their fender.</tt><tt><br>
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          </tt><tt>Larry Black</tt></font>
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        On May 1, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Eric Rosenberg <<a
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          <font size="+1"><tt>Interesting analogy. More like 4 cylinder
              cars in group of 6 cylinder cars.<br>
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              Yes, I go slower, although that's the nature of the beast
              (need to change from 1.5" tires, which will help) and I am
              lower to the ground. <br>
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              What keeps me in the rear of the virtual peleton is that
              by being wider (42" or so) I can't often get between lanes
              of traffic here in the city (and presumably elsewhere) as
              hte 2-wheelers can. While I never had trouble getting
              through the bollards surrounding Lafayette Park, the White
              House and Pennsylvania Avenue on my way to work on my
              V-REX or Rocket, on the trike I have to inch my way VERY
              slowly </tt></font><font size="+1"><tt>through them. <br>
              <br>
              Regardless, I love riding, and am grateful that I have
              been able to ride at all in the 8 years since the first of
              many medical issues and multiple surgeries. <br>
              <br>
              Eric <br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><tt><font size="+1">On 5/1/2016
                9:54 PM, Larry Black wrote:<br>
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            <div><tt><font size="+1">Thanks eric</font></tt></div>
            <div><tt><font size="+1">Hopefully someone will step up and
                  help coordinate a group or groups</font></tt></div>
            <div><tt><font size="+1">The Catrike Rallies drew over 200
                  like- and trike-minded people together every March in
                  Florida for 11 great years!</font></tt></div>
            <div><tt><font size="+1">Unfortunately trikes in mainstream
                  ( for now!) group rides are often considered awkward.</font></tt></div>
            <div><tt><font size="+1">An analogy I use is that of riding
                  a motorcycle in a car rally or vice versa.</font></tt></div>
            <div><tt><font size="+1">They can keep up with each other
                  but the dynamics are just different.</font></tt></div>
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            <div><tt><font size="+1">Thanks again for chiming in <br>
                  <br>
                  Larry Black</font></tt>
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              <div><tt><font size="+1">410.795.2929</font></tt></div>
              <div><tt><font size="+1">301.864.2211</font></tt></div>
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              On May 1, 2016, at 9:42 PM, Eric Rosenberg <<a
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                <font size="+1"><tt>I'm a trike rider (TerraTrike
                    Rambler) here in the District. I live just inside
                    the DC line at Chevy Chase Circle. <br>
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                <font size="+1"><tt>I'd say that the looks and comments
                    I get when riding my trike are no more than I get
                    when I was riding my 2-wheeler (V-REX). <br>
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                    I do get comments on the two flags I have (a
                    whirligig and either a Nats or DC flag, depending on
                    my mood <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>:-)</span></span></tt><tt><br>
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                  </tt><tt>I'd be happy to join other trikers in the
                    area. <br>
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                    Eric <br>
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                      5/1/2016 11:58 AM, Kathy Bilton wrote:</tt></font><br>
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                  type="cite"><tt><font size="+1">Hi - Larry sent this
                      message to me as well as to the list but it didn't
                      go through to the list as it was from an addresss
                      different from the one he's subbed with.  I
                      decided to forward it with a different title.
                      --Kathy <br>
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                      From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      Subject: Fwd: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://bilton.us">bilton.us</a> mailing
                      list memberships reminder <br>
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                      Kathy <br>
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                      Thanks for keeping me up to date <br>
                      With the DC recumbent rider forum. <br>
                      I'm not sure if anything but these reminders are
                      coming through. <br>
                      We have a huge interest in trike riders who want
                      to go on rides with other trikes. <br>
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                      While recumbent two wheelers have little if any
                      trouble (except for some occasional snubbing and
                      snobbing) participating in 'regular' group and
                      club rides, the trikers often feel a bit awkward
                      and get even more snubbing. <br>
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                      Someone suggested regular get togethers and an
                      online meetup group. <br>
                      While a busy season ( after a slow winter and soft
                      2014 and 2015) prevents <br>
                      my organizing such activities and group, I'd like
                      to offer support in the <br>
                      form of loaner trikes, starting points with
                      parking, restrooms and <br>
                      refreshments at both of our shops,  and tech
                      support. <br>
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                      Please pass this on to anyone who might be
                      interested <br>
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