[Whirl] So I've rejoined the list to see who is still around!

Sun Apr 12 16:42:53 CDT 2020

Please remove me from this mailing list.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 4:11 PM Lennert Thunberg <lennertthunberg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Mark,
>
> With regard to when you bought your Pursuit I can guarantee you had it
> before the fall of 1998 because that’s when I saw it at the Washington
> Sailing Marina and was inspired to purchase my first of several bents.
>
> As to turning radius my experience was that it was quite large, partly in
> view  of the long wheelbase, but also because of the low center of gravity
> and the long tiller effect, both of which made low speed handling more
> difficult than on most bents.  Despite the low-speed handling problems the
> Pursuit is still my favorite bent of all the ones I have owned.  The
> combination of comfort and speed(with a fairing), without having to resort
> to a very laid-back seating position, is superior to that of any other bent
> I have ridden.  I have no  doubt that the Pursuit, with the factory fairing
> and tailbox, is faster on the level and downhill, but not climbing, than a
> Gold Rush Replica with the zipped-up closed cloth fairing.  I’m sure I
> would get a lot of flack on this, but the lower frontal area of the Pursuit
> is too much for the Gold Rush to compete with.
>
> It’s sad that so many of the companies that promoted the emergence of
> recumbents in the 1990s and 2000s are no longer with us.  I also find it
> sad that so much of the recumbent market is dominated by trikes.  I’m a
> huge fan of trikes, having owned two, but the greater speed, reduced
> weight, easier transportability and stowage, as well as lesser cost, should
> make two-wheel bents at least as popular as trikes.
>
> Enjoy riding your cycles as a way of dealing with this pandemic, and thank
> you Kathy for keeping this forum going.
>
> Len Thunberg
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2020, at 5:45 AM, William Cannon Warren <cannonwarren at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Heyo,
>
> I'm new to the group, signed up a year or two ago looking for some bent
> riding mates, but have now moved on to Frankfurt, Germany. I left my bent
> bikes in the US for the moment. A bacchetta ti aero, and a barcroft
> Columbia tandem.
>
> Last year the tandem's steel chain stay snapped close to the frame. I had
> some local dude, Bruce the welder, weld it back together, but sadly the
> other stays were bent out of shape so now it's all screwed up. I'm trying
> to get it fixed and considering just replacing all the chain and seat stays
> at this point. They seem a little under-engineered for a touring couple.
>
> Does anyone have recommendations for someone who can work on a steel
> recumbent frame with this kind of problem? Obviously, I'm not in any
> hurry...
>
> Thanks and hope I can ride with y'all soon, and feel free to drop a line
> if anyone comes to Germany.
>
> Best,
>
> Cannon
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 7:09 AM Mark Matarella <Mark at matarella.com> wrote:
>
>> Howdy. I didn’t realize they’d done frames for Bill. Or didn’t remember
>> at least. I was able to turn it OK. But I am used to LWB. It does have a
>> large tiller factor but that does not really bug me in a bike since I only
>> notice it in a U turn usually.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well Longbikes is still around I know, making the Slipstream their
>> updated version of the Ryan Vanguard. I believe Linear is still going.
>> Others will have to chime in now. I’ve been fixating on bikes from a few
>> years back as you can tell and honestly not up to date on what is current.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks re my sell date I’ve been trying to figure it out. I remember who
>> I sold it to but for the life of me I don’t remember who I got it from!
>> Larry at the store? A private party? I don’t have a clue! I know I had it
>> in 2000 since I am on it in a pic of the 2000 Big Ride. I’m going to have
>> to dig out some photo albums of some rides to see what I had and when. Now
>> that I think of it I sold my Linear to a friend who rode it for several
>> years. Then gave it back to me when he bought a SWB. I seem to have a habit
>> of selling bikes and getting them back. LOL. I hope that monstrous Russian
>> HPV doesn’t come back to roost!
>>
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>> *From:* WHIRL [mailto:whirl-bounces at bilton.us] *On Behalf Of *Butler,
>> Michael (AU3653)
>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 12, 2020 12:51 AM
>> *To:* WHIRL <whirl at bilton.us>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Whirl] So I've rejoined the list to see who is still
>> around!
>>
>>
>>
>> I hadn’t realized Rotator was out of business till the tone of these
>> conversations got me wondering why not just buy a new.  Is see they went
>> out of business in
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>> They used to fabricate the frames for Barcroft before Bill retired from
>> that activity and sold it to Dana out west.  Is Barcroft also out of
>> business or did Dana find alternatives?
>>
>>  As long as the Pursuit was, was wondering did that bent need above
>> average space to turn around?
>>
>> Is anyone building a very long wheelbase bent these days?
>>
>> I remember riding the Halloween parade with Bikes at Vienna-Whirl back in
>> 04.  Is that bent appearance still going on each fall?
>>
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>> Mark- I remember you selling that bent-I came on board here about 02, so
>> I think it was a little less than 20, maybe 02 or 03.
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>> *From:* WHIRL <whirl-bounces at bilton.us> *On Behalf Of *Bob Simonds
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 11, 2020 1:04 PM
>> *To:* Mark Matarella <Mark at matarella.com>
>> *Cc:* WHIRL <whirl at bilton.us>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Whirl] So I've rejoined the list to see who is still
>> around!
>>
>>
>>
>> I rode with you guys a few times in the late 90s, although not as often
>> as I would have liked as I live 4 or 5 hours away. It's good to see the
>> list pop up again.
>>
>>
>>
>> I still ride a P38 I bought from Larry Black in 1994 -- the bike now has
>> well over 40k miles on it, although the frame has been out to Tim Brummer a
>> couple times for repairs. It's been to Europe as well as across the US.
>> Most of its miles were as my daily commuter for many years.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark, are you the one that gave a tour of your sailboat during one of the
>> big rides?
>>
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>> Bob Simonds,
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>> Blacksburg, VA
>>
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>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:28 PM Mark Matarella <Mark at matarella.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  HI Kathy. I thought I'd be the only one to still have the shirts! I have
>> that one and the one from 1999. I thought I had three but if so it got
>> mixed
>> in with other stuff.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: WHIRL [mailto:whirl-bounces at bilton.us] On Behalf Of KATHY BILTON
>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:38 AM
>> To: 'WHIRL' <whirl at bilton.us>
>> Subject: Re: [Whirl] So I've rejoined the list to see who is still around!
>> Hi all as well!
>>
>> That was such a great event, Mark!
>>
>> More later but I just got my Big Ride T-shirt out in honor of the (at
>> least
>> for now) resuscitation of the list and thought I would post a pic:
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KE4nQUwxfcA9TZ9LyCTlwiY2RzAZ2mrw
>> <https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Fopen%3Fid%3D1KE4nQUwxfcA9TZ9LyCTlwiY2RzAZ2mrw&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.butler%40uspto.gov%7C71b5415fbec54c8be54908d7de3a6ce2%7Cff4abfe983b540268b8ffa69a1cad0b8%7C1%7C0%7C637222214830552375&sdata=pu1n%2Bw1YL3xEHIkJMneQtU6dippWObbXHdEF%2BFKl0Eo%3D&reserved=0>
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>> --Kathy
>> in Sharpsburg MD
>>
>>
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